Wii’s already lacking launch has taken a big hit. The newest, freshest, quirkiest game set to accompany Wii to its debut has declined the invitation — Konami has delayed Elebits until mid-December. Something about the approval process is holding it back, even though the game itself is relatively finished. Damn that Treehouse.
Well, there goes my November 19th. Now i have to choose between a bunch of shooters whose only innovations are outside of the game (and in your hands), a Wii-adapted GameCube title, a DS surgery game remake, an off-road racer with questionable controls, monkeys in plastic balls, and a football sim. Any suggestions?
Gotcha. WiiSports it is.
[Ed note: Rollin’s just grumpy that his favorite game got delayed. Let’s everyone just pack it up and go home… j/k – Blake]
Excuse my profane language for a moment.WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT!?!?! This was the only fucking release I was completely stoked about! I'm pissed all kinds of ways.
I recommend Excite Truck and Tony Hawk DJ (I have already played them). Those games are very fun and addicting, the controls are also very good.
Jon, are you serious? Our of all the titles, that is the only one you were completely stoked about? I'm sure interested in others, but not completely stoked about Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, Excite Truck, Zelda, Red Steel, or Rayman? You sir… are crazy. 🙂
While the launch of the Wii is really exciting, I agree that the actual GAMES launching at launch are pretty bland.Yes there's Zelda, and thats a big game, but it's also a Gamecube adaption, not a true "Wii" game.Red Steel.. Well I would have been extremely excited if they didn't gimp it by releasing an FPS in this day and age without online play. FPS + split screen was bad enough 10 years ago.Excite Truck.. eh… if it's a cheap 20 buck title it may be fun for a bit.Tony Hawks I'm sure will be good, but not really into the whole skateboarding thing so would never pick it up.I think the Wii launch will be successful, just not because of the games released, which is a change from usual system launches where the games are the only interesting thing.
Rollin, you've gone from reporting the realistic facts to being flat-out pessimistic.Rather than simply reporting, you completely bashed Wii's entire launch lineup. And while we're all entitled to our own opinions, the positive buzz about nearly every title you listed outweighs the aspects you deem poor, negative, and unoriginal.ASIDE from the fact that I was under the impression that this game has BEEN slotted for merely the launch WINDOW and not for November 19th, I think your assessment of Zelda, Super Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, and Red Steel among others – is, as I've already said, sheer pessimism.I don't understand why you even look at Zelda as "originally a GC title" if its controls are already being declared superior, and whether it was "originally slotted for the GC" or not, it bears a storyline, a graphic upgrade, and a control scheme this gaming world has NEVER seen. If YOU feel like being Debby Downer and denouncing Zelda simply because "it was originally a GC title," then fine, that's your problem. But don't rain on everyone else's parade.As far as Super Monkey Ball goes, it's already being declared a "must-buy," with critics heralding its lush cell-shaded graphics and entertaining story mode and minigames "irresistable."Red Steel has come a long way — seeing as Ubisoft hasn't had nearly as much time to develop as Nintendo has, it has implemented split-screen multiplayer, missions involving the internal speaker, gorgeous (and improved) graphics, and – with its dual swordplay capabilities – unprecedented controls. Mind you, this is one of the primital Wii games, and Ubisoft, in my opinion, has done a damn good job preparing the best that they could for an immediate launch title.Not all of us have played the Trauma Center on DS, and I personally look at the Wii version – despite its similar, though enriches storyline – in a completely different league. Scrambling to use different medical utensils in order to save a patient's life within only a few minutes? Call me crazy, but with the Wii remote, this takes on an entirely new approach to such a game; I think the Wii remote is a bit more technologically advanced than a stylus and a touch screen. And yet, the DS version is already being deemed one of the handheld's best. I look forward to playing that one!Excite Truck may not appeal to you, but it certainly appeals to a lot of people I know – and according to many of those who have played it, it is fun, upbeat, delivers great graphics, and is highly addictive. If you're not into that genre of gaming, fine! Just quit making it out as a poorly built title – because until you've played it thoroughly, SHUT UP! I personally favor the opinions of those who have already played it, rather than the opinion of an pessimistic reporter unworthy of writing for such an awesome Nintendo blog.And stop it with the WiiSports sarcasm. It will do what it's intended to do, and if its intention is to piss you off, then so be it. Again, just don't be crudely sarcastic with us about it. Besides, it being free does no harm to you.Madden Wii? Well, it will entertain football fans, but I, personally, say no to that one.As far as Elebits goes, I, for whatever reason, was under the impression that it wasn't coming out until December even before you posted this report. Either way, it now officially is not being released until December, and if Konami wants to make the game better and promises to have it to us within a month of Wii's launch, so be it. It doesn't KILL Wii's launch… rather, it adds to Wii's list of titles being released in December.And I think you can wait until then to pick up the title apparently deemed as the only one worthy of your golden, crappy-Infendo-writing hands.Until then, I'll be enjoying a wide variety of Wii titles that different companies have promised to provide to the demographic thirsty for something other than High Definition and a stack of six $100 bills coated with black, shiny plastic.Touché.
Bildo, I'm stoked about Zelda and Red Steel, but this game looked the most … appealing to capture the Wii. I don't know how to say it. I know what Zelda and Red Steel are going to be like, but Elebits just looked like a total blast and probably would be the first thing I would play when I got my Wii. It's some mindless gaming you wouldn't have to fully immerse yourself in. I'm serious in saying that I'm super stoked about it, but it's because it's like … completely new, you know?
Your ranting sarcasm is like that of a spoiled 8 year old. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but to go so far as to publically spew such farcicle negetivity toawards several games that many of us WHO READ YOUR BLOG FOR ENJOYMENT are highly anticipating, only goes to show that your respect for diversity of preference is as shallow as that of most other so called "blog journalists", and puts you teeteringly close to the status of "Troll".Granted, this is an opinion piece you've written here, but you, sir, have a responsibility to your readers to uphold at least some level of professionalism that, to me, is woefully lacking in this post.If you're not happy with the selection of games that await you for Wii launch, then don't buy a Wii at launch. Myself, along with every journalist I've spoken with and read, could care less about the fact that Zelda has been "ported" to Wii. I can't comprehend why this is even an issue; spoiled brats have a tendency to make mountains out of mole-hills…I advise you not to alienate your readers with such needless, inflamatory garbage.btw: Yea, it sucks that Elebits got delayed…
Wow, I already thought Rollin was an ass – his comments in the Gears of War post earlier cemented that. This one takes the cake. Poor Red Steel and its innovative controls, it's obviously lacking because they didn't reinvent the shooter genre as well (like Gears of War did anything even CLOSE to that). Poor Twilight Princess – you started out as a Gamecube game, you obviously must suck ass. Trauma Center? Garbage obviously, coming from that terrible DS handheld no one plays. Excitetruck, Super Monkey Ball, Madden? Consign them to the scrap heap, they don't do anything but make use of this new controller. But hell, let's fire up Oblivion, that I've played twice before (and it was better the first two times when it was called Daggerfall and Morrowind), or maybe another game of PGR (which was better when it was called Metropolis Street Racer on the freakin' Dreamcast). No Elebits, the singular bastion of innovation for the Wii, in the face of such DAUNTING competition in that department? Hell, we may as well cancel the launch.Or we can just call Rollin the prick he is.
Jon, I understand what you're saying about Elebits, but in my book most of the games at launch are going to be great precursors to what the Wiimote will be capable of but not the end-all be all of its potential just like the DS launch games were. This includes Elebits. It's original, but throwing somethings around with the Wii-mote is akin to the Gravity Gun in Half-Life. The approach is different, but the mechanic is the same.So to me, if we're really going to get technical here, there isn't one game in particular that captures what the Wii's about. ALL of them do. The Wii will present an unprecedented and entirely new way to play games of all kinds. Will new genres be made on the system? Likely so. But I'm looking forward to new iterations of the classics just as much as new breeds.And to Rollin, yeah I'd have to agree that though this is just a fan blog and we're all entitled to our opinion, you sort of are begging for this backlash you're getting with such a negative post over a few week delay. If Elebits was the only reason you were buying the Wii at launch, wait until it comes out then buy one. Don't be a cranky child because the developer needs more time to make it all you want it to be. It's not like Nitnendo and Konami said, "Let's piss off Rollin today."
I thought the Elebits delay was fairly common knowledge by now. Back when EBGames started taking Wii preorders they had Elebits listed as a mid December title.
I'm pretty disappointed that Elebits isn't coming out at launch, but I figured it wasn't as of a few weeks ago, when this story first broke.As for the other titles, I'm pretty happy with the launch. It's not perfect, but most launches don't have more than one title to get excited about – the Wii's got more than a few, at least in my opinion. There is more than enough here to keep me excited for the 6 weeks from launch to 2007, when more great games come out.Elebits will be out a few weeks after launch, and it will be a better game for it. Until then, there are plenty of great games to play.
rollin when are are you going be on the next podcast it fun when you are on
Yeah, The listing on the Gamestop list said it wasn't gonna release until December. Anyone who preordered the Wii should have seen that. GoNintendo knew about it weeks ago. Why didnt IGN with all their infinite power learn this sooner.
You don't want Excite Truck because it has questionable controls? Elebits is a questionable GAME for crying out loud!I am looking forward to Elebits as well but who knows if it's going to be as good as we want it to be.A Wii adapted GameCube title? The controls have already proven to work fine so that's a non-issue.You sound like a baby in that post, seriously, I can understand that you're disappointed….But this post has to be the most unneccesary, outright bashing of a console's launch titles ever seen on this site.Ha, and this isn't an anti-Nintendo site so it CAN'T slide.
*ahem*Aaaanyway, i'd like to say that even though Blake has attempted to control the damage (and his explanation is partly right), i can defend myself. Now, i'll address everyone in a rational and peaceful manner.Bryan: Listen, if you feel as if Zelda and the rest are great and you're buying them, that's cool, but don't try to bring sunshine to my rainy day. My problems with Zelda aren't problems really, it's just that i'd prefer spending my time on a Wii-emcompassing new title. I'm not against remote controlled Link, i'd prefer it, but that alone doesn't make it a Wii title. The graphics, gameplay, and etcetera are all found in the Cube game as well, there've been no changes besides the controls and the aspect ratio. Sorry, but that isn't the proper introduction to Wii in my eyes. Like theJon is saying, i feel Elebits is the only one that has potential to capture people in a new way unique to the Wii experience.I'm not pessimistic, i've been very critical of Wii's lineup for a very long time. I want to have at least one game that has that new-gen smell, and Elebits was looking to be that game. And i only said the Excite Truck bit because that's what some of the comments here from the people who played the demo kiosks said, but i am looking forward to it. Cautiously. I look forward to Trauma Center also, i just got the first one and it's alright, but my lack of enthusiasm for that one comes from the fact that it's a remake and not even a sequel. Again, it's a buzzkill, not some ill will you think i harbor for Wii.I wasn't being sarcastic with the WiiSports bit. That was actually my most anticipated until about 2 weeks ago, when the media started giving negative impressions, starting with Matt Cass. I'm still excited to play it since i'm one of multiple Infendo tennis fans. So that's fantastic that you're pumped for, what looks like, every single Wii game including Cars and Barnyard, but i'd rather try them out than bet my money on positive previews.Octorok: Let me tell you something about blogging, Mr 4cr Rebel. The only responsilities i have as a writer here on this site are the truth and honesty, and i compromise neither one for some "professionalism", or whatever you wanna call it, when what you really mean to say is i should be with the readers at all times, negating my own feelings and pretending to agree at all costs. Because, as you say, readers of this blog come here for enjoyment, i should never, ever cross them. If you do that at your place, good on ya. But i don't preach to the choir.I don't know what you do on 4cr since i don't read it, but i'll let you do your thing and you let me do mine. I was merely showing a lack of interest in the few choices available on Wii, and as you can see – if you're not too busy trying to imitate Walter Cronkite on your site – some people do agree. I speak for myself, not the world. No one can speak for everyone, and this shows that opinions differ. Hence, the only people i'm alienating, supposedly, are those who take offense to what i say. That's really their problem with an opinion piece. Blogging is also about having varying points of view. I don't do it so you can antagonize me. I speak my mind just so you can know there are different feelings about the same issues; and some people do agree with me, so i'm also giving them a voice and a stage. Funny, i'm the child and you're the one telling me to shut up and take it, or don't get it at all. "If you don't fall in line, get the hell out", is that it? Man, that's professional.I agree with you and your "journalists", i don't mind that Zelda is a Cube game on Wii. I think it's a great piece of software on whatever system it's on. I explained above why i'm not exactly thrilled to purchase it on Wii's launch day, so re-read that if you have to. I wasn't trying to enrage anyone, i could be a lot harsher, and have been, about Wii's American launch games (Japan has a much better lineup). If Jack can run amok around here spewing Carl Rove-esque pro-Nintendo/anti-competition bias, i have just as much right to state my own feelings. However, this post was quite different for the simple fact that i didn't try to shove it down your throat with heaps of negative spin, so don't attack me. If you're insecure about your Wii purchase enough to get mad at my distaste for it, that's your beef. I'm picking one up on the 19th because i realize its potential and i feel pretty secure about that decision — do you?Anonymous: "rollin when are are you going be on the next podcast it fun when you are on" That's up to you, mate.Bildo: It's delayed because of NOA's approval process, not because it's unfinished, which it isn't. It was a logistics problem.samurai x: The fact that the controls work well doesn't make it an all out Wii game. For instance, WiiSports is a Wii game, through and through. This baby was earnestly asking for you guys' opinion on what other game would be a good replacement for Elebits. And thank you for your positive insight.
Bildo, yeah man, you're right. Seems how you always talk me in and out of things. I like that. Haha.I think NOA did say "Let's piss of Rollin today!"
Eh, your'e entitled to your opinions. I'm looking fowar to most of the titles you are not necessarily thrilled to get, but nonetheless, I'm sorry your favorite launch title was delayed.Think of it this way. You'll truly start your Wii experience around the same that the British do. ^_^
Anyone notice Rollin only ever posts when he has to bitch and complain about something? I often find myself lulled into a false sense of security, dreaming that Rollin finally started an X360/PS3 blog, and has finally left infendo for good.Bitching and complaining can be quite alright, incidentally, but Rollin, it's just that it's all you ever seem to do. Anything nice you ever have to say is surrounded by a bunch of whiny grumpy crap.
ryro wants all rain and sunshine posts apparently. If he was going to start a 360 or PS3 blog he would have said……I just wish (insert 360 or PS3 title) was a Wii launch title…Rollin is a bit of a cynic, and that adds a little variaty to infendo. It was my favorite part about infendo when i first started reading a year and a half ago.Now who is whining?
Rollin: Meh, some people just won't admit when they were wrong or overreacted, you're one of them. You bashed all of those games and used some heavy sarcasm yet you were earnestly asking. Tell me this, what is a Wii game? Is it not a GC game with Wii controls? That's what the Wii is doing, new controls. All of these games could be made on the GameCube were it not for the controls.Anyway, get Rayman.
Rollin, you said:…I was merely showing a lack of interest in the few choices available on Wii…No, dude. Thats just silly.You're right though, the only responsibility you have to your readers is 'honesty'. However, you also have a responsibility to Infendo. The crux of my original post was not about honesty, it was about semantics. It was about how the phrasing and irrational rhetoric you used seemed to me insensitive and troll-like, and I immediatly took offense not to your opinion, but with the negligent use of language and the obvious hyperbole that clearly belittled those of us who would choose to select WiiSports, Madden, Zelda, Excitetruck, and RedSteel, over Elebits. The responsibility you personally have to contribute to the increasing readership of Infendo is paramount – believe me, I know this. I merely stated that you should avoid using such strong and farcicle language and risk alienating large portions of your reading audience.With that said, Hey… I love your site!=D
Ok, I got my tongue-lashing. You win. A final time, i'll address the comments.Ryro: When does anyone on this site besides me complain about anything? I have my own special areas of interest with Nintendo, and i gush praise when it comes to things i think Nintendo does right. But forgive me if i feel their mistakes are more worth dissecting on a place that generally talks them up more than neccesary. Don't you get enough hype? I'm a Nintendo fan, goddamnit. The fact that you wanna justify my views as being anti-Nintendo or of an Xbox/Sony fan shows that you're a blind puppet. That's the George Bush thinking of "you're either pro-war or against it", and it's not that simple. There are people out there who share a common view as me; they have their right as well.Andrew G: Maybe i'll work on my backhand until then. :)Samurai x: How was my opinion wrong? Jesus, i'll admit, it wasn't a positive tone, but nothing drastic. I can get drastic if you want me to get drastic. I was upfront about how i felt towards the games i mentioned and i didn't imply anything other than i wasn't thrilled over them. God forbid someone isn't, right? I know there are better sports games in the pipe than WiiSports, but in 10 days it's all i got and i'm psyched to play it. And no, next to none of those games could be done on GameCube. The hardware is capable of much than just the remote, which is where the HD haters get the graphics argument all mixed up. Wii can elicit some great great visuals which i tend to jive with, typically in Mii games. If you can't see that, look a little closer.Octorok: You came at me strong and i came at you strong, but this time you're much clearer. But tell me, why was it irrational? You think i've only given this a passing thought? I plan to invest hundreds of hard-earned dollars next week and i've been mulling this over for a while. I understand why you would take offense to how it was put, but i really didn't mean to sound so angry or pessimistic. I think the fact that i've voiced this opinion many times elsewhere and have stated it here for the first time is what made it sound like some mad-at-the-world troll to you. I didn't intend that. At the same time, i wasn't trying to convince the unconvincable. And if what i said was rhetoric, i'm no different than any blogger on this site or yours.If there are a few that happen to share my opinion, i am fulfilling the responsibility of increasing the readership. I'm not gonna surgarcoat for the sake of those who were never gonna be swayed by anything coming out of my mouth anyway, there are plenty of positive opinion pieces around for them to read, sometimes even coming from myself. The enthusiasts need to tone down the enthusiasm and let me breathe my own air. But you win. I'll make it more digestable for you from now on. For the sake of traffic.
Now, my final adress.Rollin: I never said your opinion was wrong but I did want to imply that you went about it the wrong way. God forbid someone isn't thrilled about the games? I don't care what other people think, please just get it through your head that I never said you were wrong because of what you said, you just sounded so pessimistic it's almost as if you were hating on the launch titles and that's as bad as Jack when he wrote about GoW and how next-gen is an 8/10. That's my point, you felt his comments were unnecessary…so were yours. He isn't interested in playing GoW or other next-gen games because it's more of the same to him. God forbid someone is looking forward to a new control method and not a great game like GoW! God forbid anyone having an opinion of their own! Do you see now? He doesn't want next-gen because it's mostly the same but with prettier graphics and you're not looking forward to most of the Wii launch lineup. What makes either of you wrong? Nothing, it's just the way you both went about it.
wii games are NOT on the same level as GoW at this point…
>>>Samurai XI have to say that while Rollin's opinion may have been his personal opinion, you cannont even say it is even on the same level as Jack's artical.Jack typed one of the most bias pieces of crap I have ever read on this site. And you compair that to this guy being pissed about the only launch game he was looking forward to being pushed back????Look bashing a launch you're looking forward to like Rollin did is a whole different ballgame than going out of your way to put down another system's big proven game and criminalizing its successes to endorse the unreleased Wii.It's insane that these two posts, one form a fanboy and one from an antifanboy could cause so much turmoil in such a short time. I think everyone needs to lighten up…even me.