Only a few days after their interview in which Jim Merrick called Mark Rein out, Eurogamer gets the other side of the coin from Mark Rein. The Epic Games VP clarified that when he said Revolution would spawn “gimmicky, crappy, cheap, I-wish-I-hadn’t-bought-it games”, he actually “wasn’t bashing Nintendo [or] the controller, [he] was really just saying that a byproduct of having a device like this is that people are going to make games that possibly are just there because of the controller.” He continued: “I said it badly… I regret that.”
The Epic VP said that both Nintendo and the best third parties will make great use of the controller. He even called Jim Merrick after his interview with Eurogamer a few days ago and had a “long, very good chat.” In regards to Merrick’s challenge that Mark Rein take a Revolution dev kit for himself, Rein responded, “I told him we’ve absolutely love to take him up on that.” Fair enough. That doesn’t mean that Epic has anything in planning, but he says “I think Unreal Engine 3 and Nintendo Revolution would be very well suited to each other.”
[Source: Eurogamer]
LSSLAVE
I wonder if this is also because almost every major developer and big name in the entire gaming world is starting to take notice and PRAISE the system?
Even Hideo Kojima has stated after Metal Gear Solid 4 he will be leaving Snake behind for good, and working with his personal team for Revolution development (actually he is already doing that ^^)
I guess you can only be considered an outcast for a short time before you realize that Nintendo has a chance to rule the market, everyone loves the idea in the developers side and the consumers are even becoming excited, whether from the controller or the amount of developers AFTER the controllers capabilities.
Rollin
I should also mention that this is hypocritical on Rein’s behalf cause of the way he tried to portray the GameCube’s userbase at IGN Live. Also, he did say that he didn’t think the Revolution controller would add anything to the FPS genre, so he still has yet to eat his words on that.
HereticPB
He is trying to kiss up to Nintendo fans because many thousand people emailed Mr Rein and said “Whats up with that!”
“Oh no I didn’t say that I meant to say this.”
Well if you meant to say this wouldn’t you have said this?
Link
I never read the other things he said but when I first read those comments I actually agreed, cuz let’s face it, it happened to the DS too. It always takes a while for the good games to shine through all the quick gimmicky cash-ins.
Let’s just hope that unlike the DS, the revolution has a few games that make it a must-have during the launch window (first 2-3 months after launch depending on when it launches) so that it gets a better start than the DS.
accela
interesting to see how people try to stay under the spotlight when they had the chance that press wrote about them.
its always funny to see this kind of “almost orchestrated” press ping-pong.
dont be fooled…
Jack
Backpedal! Backpedal!
The guy brought an Xbox 360 dev kit to the Eurogamer interview.
Flush him, Nintendo doesn’t need him and from the sounds of things they are largely immune/indifferent to the media circus going on right now.
Thunder Emperor
translation
Here is one for you from ubisoft, it is termed as a doom clone. source
http://www.consolewars.de/news/newsdisplay.php?idx=9865
original text in german
Ubisoft soll bereits mit der Entwicklung von Revolutionsoftware begonnen haben (was zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt ohnehin denkbar ist). Beim ersten Projekt soll es sich um eine Art Doom-Klon handeln. Dieses Projekt befindet sich angeblich zurzeit bei der kanadischen Niederlassung in der Entwicklung. Mit ersten handfesten Infos oder gar Bilder kann man aber erst auf der E3 2006 rechnen. Bis dahin heißt es abwarten…
english translation
Ubisoft is to have already begun with the development of revolution often commodity (which at the current time is anyway conceivable). With the first project it is to concern a kind Doom clone. This project is allegedly to time during the Canadian address in the development. On first strong information or one can count pictures however only on the E3 2006. Up to then means it are waiting…
which willmean i am guess that the game is running on unreal 3.0 since ubisoft is well know for using epic engines. take that mark rein lol.
Thunder Emperor.
Vincent
I’ll say here what I said at Joystiq:
He’s not entirely wrong.
He chose a particularly asinine way to show his opinion, but he’s right in that some developers will use the console to pump out crap games.
Consider the following:
-It’s widely considered to be the easiest, cheapest console for which to develop
-It’s got its wonderful (though some insist on calling it “gimmicky”) controller
-And Nintendo has notoriously weak third-party support (though that seems to be changing for the better with the Rev).
All those things COULD combine to give us a slew of crappy games that use the controller as a gimmick.
However, I doubt it’ll happen. The DS has an extremely solid library of games–with only one or two bad enough to be considered “gimmicky”. The anticipation for the Rev is much higher than that of the DS, and it will likely have a much stronger starting lineup. And third-party support is strong and growing.
The potential is there for the controller to be misused–and undoubtedly it will be, by a few developers looking for a quick buck. But that’s the case on every system. The difference is, people are excited about the Rev and developing for it, because it’s DIFFERENT–not gimmicky. In creating it, Nintendo took the risk of everybody either accepting it and being excited about the possibilities or rejecting it and dismissing it as a gimmick. Looks like the former is the case, which is a good thing for everybody–Nintendo, developers, and consumers alike.
Rollin
I think the fault in his original statements was attacking the GameCube and saying that the controller was nothing special in comparison to the 360’s. Otherwise what he said was understandable.
It should also be noted that in the Eurogamer interview, Mark Rein confirmed that he asked Jim Merrick for a Rev dev kit in their phone call so, even though nothing’s planned, Epic is definitely gonna be toying around with that. Hope they dig it lots, CliffyB already does.
Anonymous
“The potential is there for the controller to be misused–and undoubtedly it will be, by a few developers looking for a quick buck. But that’s the case on every system. The difference is, people are excited about the Rev and developing for it, because it’s DIFFERENT–not gimmicky. In creating it, Nintendo took the risk of everybody either accepting it and being excited about the possibilities or rejecting it and dismissing it as a gimmick. Looks like the former is the case, which is a good thing for everybody–Nintendo, developers, and consumers alike. ” Bravo, Vincent! A well-articulated opinion? On the Internet? This kind of thing is more elusive than any endangered species. Wow.
vakerorokero
my friends, video games are gimmicky since day one. tell me a game that doesn’t try gimmicks and I if you say pong, I agree with you. All of them feature some kind of gimmick to stand out: graphics, new moves, cool characters, varied missions, etc, etc.
What he was implying is that we are going to see that most games will have some kind of new way of moving that controller but nothing more. Wel, he might try putting to death the Wolfestein 3d clones of the past 10 years he’s been making money of. I remember they used to make release different games when they were shareware sellers but have done pretty much nothing ever since. Make a new franchise every five years? update the only good thing you got every year? and then sell it to everyone as a engine?
Video games are about gimmicks. Since they are one big gimmick industry like movies are. I rather spend my money in one of those gimmicky Sega games that will last me two weeks, than spend a hole month trying to finish one of those world war II FPS, which all seem to play the same. Throw a grenade, use a machine gun, use the knife as your last choice, get that bazooka, cover your friends, etc.
Anonymous
I don’t think “Gimicky” games are an issue. I can easily just stick to the first party games at launch. Think about it, the best DS game…Super Mario? First party title? At launch? So ya, I’ll have SSB3, and whatever others there are.
Anonymous
Yeah, this is backpedaling at its finest. He just realized that he made himself look like a moron (which Merrick helped out with a bit) and is now trying to be all “NO NO I NEVER MEANT THAT ETC.” Yeah, sure you didn’t. He never would’ve apologized if there wasn’t such a backlash to his stupid statements.
MrHaze
Shame! Shame! it’s now retreating his declarations!!!! this is no good
but hey, never too late to change opinion on what’s best!