Nintendo of America has confirmed that the greatest video game of all time is coming to the Virtual Console in North America on Monday, February 26th, for 1000 Wii Points.
Are you busting out a credit card yet?
Nintendo of America has confirmed that the greatest video game of all time is coming to the Virtual Console in North America on Monday, February 26th, for 1000 Wii Points. Are you busting out a credit card yet?
Nintendo of America has confirmed that the greatest video game of all time is coming to the Virtual Console in North America on Monday, February 26th, for 1000 Wii Points.
Are you busting out a credit card yet?
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Oh man, I don't know. Much I like to wait and see if Nintendo VC would release the Master's Quest, but it's very tempting to get this game. 🙂
Yes! I'm busting out my credit card!…but for Donkey Kong Country…Sorry, David, but I'm still trying to get out of Ordon Village in Twilight Princess! These games are HUGE!!
Not the greatest by a long shot. Not even the best Zelda game (Link to the Past). It's good, but it's still a shaky 3d adaptation of a classic series on hardware that wasn't quite up to handling it in 3d. Like many of these 3d updates it also failed to show that 3d actually improved the game or was in any way necessary. Considering the technology at the time they should have made a really great looking 2d game, not a blocky, chunky 3d one.
And so the countdown to the whining that will surely occur because some aspect of it won't live up to some vocal opponents of VC's demands begins…
Is it just me, or in Ocarina of Time, when you are at Lon Lon Ranch (spelling?), but does the Lon Lon Ranch music sound like you could say "navy beans, navy beans" while singing along with the melody? Oh man.. I have great memories of hanging out the college dorms and tons of people had N64's at the time and EVERYONE was either playing OOT or Goldeneye multiplayer. Great games, both of them!
Wouldn't you get a better game if you simply bought OOT and M/C on a Gamecube disc and stick it in your Wii? Why download an inferior version?
I hold that Ocarina was one of the most overrated games of all time, right up there with Halo and GTAIII. It was a good game, yes, but it was one hell of a step backwards versus Link to the Past, which was far superior. The later 3D Zelda games would all be much better.
@Fool ThrottleBecause of how rare those are, they are very expensive, often at least $50@Gay BohabI have played and beaten A Link to the Past and must say that I prefer OoT.
Not buying it because I have the gamecube disk version…
HAH! we in europe got this title today, we win! lol but no, i won't be getting it, i have 2 copies on the gamecube and 1 copy on my N64, not much point in owning a 4th copy… yet…i got kirby today instead
I dont think anyone knows how much cheaper the VC is compared to paying for the games nowadays. An original cart of OoT can cost you about 25 to 30 bucks where the GCN one is about 50 used now.The VC is a savings that no one seems to understand.
Definitely not, TP is my new fave, so bye bye OoT.That and I already have the collector's disc with Zelda 1, 2 OoT and MM.I'm definitely gonna be buying DKC too though.
The main reason I bought the Wii is for good VC games like Mario Kart and OoT. I've beaten it but will buy it. I want to try MM though. I've never played it. I also need to dig around for my old OoT guide. Might be in my attic.
After reading the LttP review on IGN where they glorify the game and how it influences OoT, I can understand why some would prefer it over the N64 version, but Ocarina, I thought, was the most refined Zelda up to that point. The franchise may have been set with LttP, but bringing it to 3D made it simply amazing. Truly one of the best games ever made. Having such an expansive world, with a setting that actually changed the more you went through it made the game feel far more epic than LttP. And when people talk about graphics with it, and how they sucked, I can't imagine that they actually played it when it came out, as it had probably the best console graphics for the time.I probably won't buy it, as I have enough of them on other systems, but if anyone has never played it, they better take a course in Epic Gaming 101: OoT Edition.
I said it when it this was announced at Kotaku, and I'll say it here: that's a big pile of heaping, stinking, Epona crap! I agree with Begland: It may not even be the best Zelda game. People think it introduced warmth and drama and characters you can care about to the Zelda series, but what about Link's Awakening I say? What about LINK'S AWAKENING? Really, anyone who thinks Ocarina of Time is the greatest game of all time is delusional in my opinion: First off, you're saying this is the greatest video game—-among the tens or hundreds of thousands of video games that have ever been released! Secondly, if you're going to call something the greatest ever, use some common sense and judge it by it's influence. Ocarina of Time introduced……locking on to enemies with Z. WHOA! Sure, Zelda 64 may have done for Zelda what Final Fantasy 7 did for RPG series in everywhere else but Japan (actually an overstatement since Zelda was already really popular), but it's influence on the video game world is immensely overstated! If you're going to call any video game the greatest ever, why not start with Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, and Super Mario Bros.? And if you're going to call any Zelda game the greatest Zelda game, although Ocarina of Time may have the most overall polish of any other Zelda, it also suffers from mostly dull NPC dialogue and no real sense of humor.Basically, even though I love Ocarina of Time and value it as being perhaps a perfect model of a great game, even a Zelda game, later titles were an improvement in many areas (though still lacking a certain degree of polish and "Miyamoto magic").This whole business of Ocarina of Time being the greatest game ever is an insult to the video game industry, and it seriously pisses me off because it leads me suspect that Nintendo is living in the shadow of a great game that they can't make another one like. The only direction for Nintendo to head with the Zelda series is forward. Eiji Aonuma wasn't in charge of Zelda then. He is now. I hope Nintendo charges forward with new ideas instead of aspiring to "outdo" a game that is unfairly judged by so many as being the greatest of all games.
DealinBurgers: Yeah, Lon Lon Ranch has always been my favorite music! But then, I always was a LinkXMalon fan..
Now Poochy, I'm gonna have to go ahead and completely disagree with your entire rant there. It seems to me that you just don't prefer OoT when compared to other games and other Zeldas. That's completely alright. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and it amazes me people never understand that on the Internets, but what about all those sites, like metacritic and gamestats that all say OoT is the best game ever made? You can't just push that aside and think it doesn't matter. And what about the 7 million+ people that have played the game since released and love it dearly? You might not think that OoT is that great, but it appears to me that there are enough people and stats out there to prove you wrong. And that's very narrow-minded and rude to say we're all delusional to think it is. Some people think that FFVII is the greatest game, while others think Goldeneye is the greatest game ever, but there is no way in hell you can prove them wrong because it's all based on opinion. Ocarina is lucky in that respect because, AT THE TIME (which is something people need to start realizing, as every game has added to the OoT formula since then), it really was an amazing feat for video games, with the Z-lock, the graphics, the epic feel and story, control, etc. I say it really is the greatest game ever made, and there's nothing you can say to change my mind on that. Call me delusional or whatever you want, I still stand by my decision, as well as all those reviewers and players out there that agree with me.
I never got the logic that 3D is somehow by default better than 2D. I'd rather have a huge, massive, intricate overworld in 2D than a simple, self-explanatory hub overworld that branches off to all the other locales in 3D. As far as mechanics goes, I perfer the simplicity of pointing in a general direction and pressing B to swing a sword over locking on to a target, drawing my weapon and chosing from ten or so different attacks. I think that, at the time of Ocarina and Majora's Mask, 3D gaming wasn't ready for Zelda yet. They were great games for what they were, but the environments were all small and/or simplistic, the bosses and enemies were all way too easy, and Ocarina is probably the game that invented my biggest complaint with post-16-bit gaming: The Handholding Narrative. Instead of being allowed to figure things out for yourself, like in LoZ or LttP, you get all this, "Hay! LISTEN! Go to the castle next! Hay, what's this? Throw a bomb at it! Hey, look over here, I'm floating around this thing because it's important!" Just let me play the fucking game, 'kay? Also, If you think OoT is the best game ever, I'm cool with that. I disagree, but hey, it takes different strokes to move the world. I agree with Cronotrigger913 in that respect, but the popularity argument always gets to me. if Micheal Jackson's "Thriller" tells us anything, it's that popularity does not neccisarily equate to quality. We are all entitled to our own opinion, let's not let that of the masses affect ours.
Chronotrigger913: It seems like I could've chosen my words more carefully…You're right that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But when a group of people, like the Nintendo Power staff, for instance, agree to call a game the best ever, then it starts to be viewed more as fact than opinion. You know, because "they said so", and they must know what they're talking about, right?The truth is I don't care about opinions. Facts, to me, don't seem to be based on opinion. You see, I'll gladly say that it's my opinion that OoT isn't my favorite Zelda game (though I love it very dearly), but in my opinion websites and magazines shouldn't be so quick to call a game the greatest ever because then you're crossing the border of personal opinion and representing something as fact. Face it, you read magazines expecting to find truth, not lies.And the truth is, Ocarina of Time has not been fairly weighed against all the other supposed "greatest games ever". Obviously there are other "greatest games ever" that are held in high esteem, and if you were to fairly judge it against those games in terms of gameplay, replayability, influence, etc., THEN you might have a fact. And even still, I still think it's silly (though not delusional) to say something is the best game ever. You just haven't seen it all, played it all, and chances are you're just saying that without really thinking about the weight of the matter. But that's just my opinion. Everyone's entitled to one, but I definitely think magazines should cut this crap out about Zelda being the greatest game ever: it's not true. If it were, then 4 out of 5 people you ask would say so, wouldn't they? Opinion and fact should be kept seperate. Like you said, a lot of people on the internet don't appear to respect other people's opinions. But some people, like me, just don't like to hear people be lied to. No one knows if Zelda is the greatest game ever, because, as far as I know, there has never been a true test of it's gameplay and it's influence, and how it weighs against other fantastic titles that are said to be the greatest.So, sorry if I offended anyone, but that's just how I think.
I already own OoT and Master Quest on one GameCube disc. Give me some more SNES titles like Pilotwings and Uniracers!
It's 8:07 EST on Monday, I just checked the Shop Channel. Where is OoT?
Nevermind, the press release says 9 AM Pacific Time. Oh well, guess I'm waiting till 12.
That turned into a pretty good conversation on the whole subject. I was worried, I thought my comments were gonna start a huge cascade of pissed off trolls, but thankfully infendo is better than that. Good reply Poochy. I definitely see where you're coming from. But there's gotta a greatest game somewhere. You pointed to Pac-Man, but that's more influential than "great." SMB is probably the next bet, but again, it's not that simple.But what about movies and books? They have lists where they award one as the greatest ever. Why can't games have that too?I think people get behind reviewers because they're the ones most likely to have played everything. And look at IGN-Wii's VC review for OoT. It got a 10. Again. I do get suspicious, but it shows that the game really is at the upper echelon of gaming. It may not the the greatest, but it's still great, I guess.
Oh I know. I love Ocarina of Time, and I really doubt there will be a more influential title in the series, unless Nintendo would start from scratch with something totally original. But it kind of bugs me when it gets placed at the top of lists like Nintendo Power's 200 Greatest Games Of All Time. How do you feel about that, chronotrigger913? I mean, it's the 200 greatest games of all time, and they placed it 3-4 spaces ahead of Super Mario Bros.! Ocarina of Time DEFINITELY did not have the kind of mark on the video game world as SMB did, even as awesome as that game is even to this day. Personally, I can't help but be suspicious about stuff like that. Is it just fanboyism? It doesn't seem very fair at all.
Well, I myself would put no stock in what Nintendo Power would list. It's only Nintendo games, so they're missing more than 50% of the games that are worthy of being called the best of all time. And topping Super Mario Bros is a pretty hefty order, and it makes it suspicious. It may actually be the fact that some of these people just don't know what it means to be the greatest game of all time. It probably gets into a grey area when you start getting into the Top 10. We know what makes a game better than the 100th best game, but how do you decide between the fourth or fifth? I think it's just overzealous gamers coming up with these things. Some may love OoT, but that doesn't mean its the best, considering all the things that make a game. I think it's the best, considering all things, but I have no real ability to say it is. As for reviewers and stuff, I don't think we have found the right formula. OoT may be the best, but with the way we do things now, we can't say for sure.A little side-note: SMB is great, but it does get into the whole "influential/great" idea i was talking about with Pac Man. It's still an amazing game, hands down, but with can we say its the best, or just the "game that saved the industry"?